Drawing from the small of the back involves a longer arm motion, as well as tucking the hand behind the back. Instead, they just shoved their old sixgun into their waistband in front of their hip bone and covered it with their coat. “JC” covered my main objection to the “I always take the holster out, reholster the gun, then reinsert the holster”, which is that you’re not going to do that after you’ve shot someone, when your hands are shaking and you’re trying to get the gun out of sight before the responding officers mistakenly shoot you. [For the record, 9 out of 10 times I’ve got the semi-auto at 3 o’clock … so overall I’m still okay w/ my odds on this, given my consideration and strict focus]. The most common position is half way between the distance from the hip bone and waistband button. I’d rather have an angel looking over my shoulder…. I said that he should consider some apparently hitherto unconsidered factors. When a gun is carried on the hip, or behind the hip, an ND usually only results in a relatively minor wound to the buttocks or back of the thigh. It was actually quite popular during the days of the American frontier. Reference a comment left by Frank Sharpe on our recent story about the Appendix carrier who suffered a negligent discharge and bled out. Generally, “Rings” seems to be the standard used at firearm schools and instructors. “Safe Appendix Carry” is clearly an option.Only you can decide if this method is a good choice for you, but you should be sure to approach the question with logic and rational thinking, with a clear understanding of the concepts and techniques involved. No more than he will if you own a gun and don’t store, handle, operate, train with, and clean the correct way EVERY time. You want look for anything that will develops into a BAD habit. This is not a condemnation of the striker-fired pistol. It does require the utmost level of attention, consideration, and proper training. That sort of an ND is definitely life threatening. Thus, when trouble raises its head, we have less distance to move our hands in order to acquire the defensive handgun. Has he ever practiced putting the gun “on the deck” after a shooting? Frank Sharpe on August 25, 2015 at 8:52 am, Indirect Action on August 25, 2015 at 5:42 pm, Frank Sharpe on August 25, 2015 at 9:06 pm, Indirect Action on August 25, 2015 at 10:25 pm, Frank Sharpe on August 26, 2015 at 6:45 am, Frank Sharpe on August 26, 2015 at 9:12 pm, Frank Sharpe on August 26, 2015 at 7:09 pm, Frank Sharpe on August 26, 2015 at 8:43 pm, Frank Sharpe on August 30, 2015 at 10:10 am. Appendix carry just has higher stakes … So right off the bat when discussing appendix carry, we have to get this out there: a mistake when carrying AIWB can have dangerous consequences. It works especially well when the covering garment is a t-shirt, sweatshirt or buttoned shirt that is worn with the shirttail out. I echo his concern of somebody messing up under stress and trying to re-holster AIWB. I personally don't appendix carry with semi-autos because, in the case of the single-action auto, the safety could fail, leaving the trigger vulnerable. Tulster has a wide range of products with different features. It is up to each of us to be properly informed and educated. Good luck and stay safe by practicing safely every time there’s a gun around you. I think the gist of what he’s saying is that it’s better to not have a (probably) fatal or near fatal consequence to a ND, as opposed to the normal risks associated with a ND for those of us who don’t AIWB. Contrary to what you see in movies and on television, frontiersmen did not wear their cartridge belts and holsters when they came to town. With the blue gun replica, or practicing the draw from under various clothing and jacket options … I never get lazy and re-holster in the 1 o’clock position. But, … As we go about the normal tasks that make up our daily schedule, our hands tend to be located closer to the front of our body. And a lot of that depends upon what you are carrying and what your level of training is. It is up to each of us to be properly informed and educated. .” The fact that I disagree with your choices doesn’t mean I’m against your making them. Appendix carry, in and of itself, is no more dangerous than any other carry technique when one is properly trained and armed with a handgun that lends itself to this method. That being said, I waiver on the fence with this method of carry when used with an inside the waistband holster. With your brand new AIWB holster, before you put your gun in the holster put the safety gun in. I might have a few extra pounds around the midsection, so I’d always assumed … And, in the case of many striker-fired autos (the Glock, S&W M&P and the Springfield XD, to name a few) the safety trigger can very easily be manipulated, either by the trigger finger, the holster or shirt. It’s obviously not convenient to practice 100 drawstrokes with out on the range, but for daily carry it might actually be “safer” than normal IWB/open top holster carry anywhere else on the waist. However, when that same ND occurs on the front side of the body the bullet stands a good chance of impacting the groin area or, even worse, the femoral artery. I kinda get it. Rotate the damn holster to the side. On-body re-holstering has only ever been done for holsters at 3 or 4 o’clock. In truth, its comfortable and offers quick access to a gun no matter what position you’re in. Ever. Here are some of the more important factors to consider before stuffing your pistol into a holster in the front of your waistband. I don’t have an answer, just throwing it out there. Never. I'm sure it can be done, but you'd really have to work at it and, in the case of the SA revolver, you would have to be reholstering with the hammer cocked – a move that no one in their right mind should consider. That’s why I’ve never re-holstered on-body, even in practice. That said, the modern practice called “appendix carry” differs from that of “toting a belly gun.” Today, appendix carry is done with a holster instead of merely inserting a pistol into the waistband. The reason why some believe that appendix carry is dangerous is mostly due to where the pistol is located, rather than any inherent danger. To appendix carry, place your holster and gun in the front of the waistband. Holstering a Loaded Gun Is Dangerous. Appendix carry is nothing new although it has become a current topic among those who carry concealed. your femoral artery, groin, knee, foot, etc. Then as you start using your real gun be VERY careful! It gets set on the deck. We’ve also changed our doctrine to include: There is NO rush to re-holster – take your time, look if you need to. That isn’t limited to AIWB: Holstering a pistol is universally dangerous if you’re careless. It requires me to snap it over the trigger guard before I can slip it into my waist band – thus, I’m not holstering a gun with an exposed trigger. Then start carrying as you would with a real gun, and in your house at all times continue for at least a couple of weeks. I’m no fan of appendix carry (sometimes called AIWB – appendix inside the waistband) for one reason: it’s unsafe. Speaking of concealment, for most shooters with the most common body types you can get away with concealing a far larger pistol, and do so more comfortably, carrying AIWB in a proper holster than you can in other positions wearing even light attire. However, smart training and … Appendix carry is often maligned. I’m not saying any of those accidents are acceptable, I’m just wondering at what point we might be over emphasizing a risk factor…. With that said, as an instructor I feel compelled to offer a bit of advice. Still coming down on side of convenience and comfort for quick trips when I’m “not carrying a real gun”, but I totally understand and respect your position on this. Holsterless carry is dangerous, and should … Appendix carry violates one of the primary rules: Don’t point the muzzle of a loaded firearm at anything you don’t want to shoot (destroy) – e.g. One of the advantages of appendix carry is that it can provide for a very fast pistol presentation, assuming that one has practiced sufficiently. The gun goes in the holster, then the whole assembly clips into place. There are potential problems in life with everything we do – some reach a risk/reward tipping point that results in us choosing not to engage in that activity. Well, that’s only true if you do it wrong. As far as the adrenalin/excitement factor with the police arriving, set the pistol on the ground, the car hood, or drop it and step on it. Please use the member login link in the main navigation bar to access the members sections. The most serious disadvantage of appendix carry occurs when one has a negligent discharge while drawing or reholstering. But I don’t think he’s being realistic. If Small of Back Carry Is This Problematic, What Are The Alternatives? In the second place, there may be good reasons not to leave a functional firearm out of your control, e.g., a hostile crowd. Tuesday, August 27, 2019. If the gun is “on the deck,” even if you’re standing on it, it’s not under your control. On the other hand, sometimes we make adjustments and solve problems in order to reap the benefits of the activity. Appendix carry is also a natural position for carry for the same reasons, as is cross-draw appendix carry. Concealed carry in general — no matter how you’re carrying — is inherently dangerous if its done incorrectly. Revolvers, single action or double action, will not easily fire when your finger, or the holster, comes in contact with the trigger. I’d suggest that if those shooting themselves in the ass were doing so with expanding hollow points, we might be seeing a higher number of fatalities/severe damage, as expanding and fragmenting bullets will take turns and experience odd penetration patterns when they contact meat and bone. I agree with Frank Sharpe in general. No different than your loaded pistol sitting on the passenger seat of you car, in a case, pointed at you. In this video I discuss why the appendix carry is dangerous, what can go wrong, when a negligent or accidental discharge is most likely to occur, and some easy tips to ensure you never have an accident. However, there are advantages and disadvantages to this method. BravoBelt Belly Band Holster (Soft Belt) Price: Under $30. And, with the striker-fired gun, you'd better be sure that nothing comes in contact with that trigger. Guns.com asked each holster maker their opinions on whether this mode of carry was a dangerous or risky option. I agree with your statement, “Make your choices . My $0.02 on AIWB carry of my snub-nosed revolver, in a holster (reserved for those short local trips when I don’t feel like carrying a gun): As John mentioned, some of us defend the practice by NEVER re-holstering on-body. This can happen with any form of belt carry, but there is a perception that the risk is greater with appendix carry because the muzzle comes close to your femoral artery and some of your most valued body parts. The other big criticism of appendix carry is that it’s inherently unsafe because there’s no way to re-holster the gun without pointing it at yourself. by Sheriff Jim Wilson - And thanks for the tip – I will add “place it on the deck” and step on it to my dry fire / blue gun practice sessions! Darwin will watch over you if you use appendix carry. If you screw up your holstering, there’s a good chance you’ll die. For this reason, I only use appendix carry with certain handguns, namely revolvers. 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What An Appendix Holster Must Have: Covers the trigger guard and slide Has a built-in wedge or the ability to add one Offers a belt attachment option in the “better” or “best” category We rehearse dealing with arriving officers in our courses. Make your choices and go forth boldly. I appreciate the thought about crowd situations, but where I live – if I’ve popped somebody it’s pretty unlikely I’m going to be standing in the middle of a hostile/unpredictable crowd when the cops arrive. I haven’t banned it, but I strongly encourage new students NOT start there. If the trigger guard of a pistol is covered, it’s considered cased. Appendix Carry Lends Itself to Faster Manipulation of the Gun Whether it be magazine changes or support side draw, appendix carry owns other positions of carry. Appendix carry is one of the most amicable positions to a one-handed draw, even from concealment. Should You Get Involved When a Stranger is Attacked? The most likely time to have a negligent discharge is when holstering your pistol. One statistic that I’ve never seen compiled is the type of ammo most people shoot themselves with when they experience a negligent discharge. This argument should have been over ages ago. Thankfully, most ND’s don’t rupture a major artery or there would be a lot fewer gun owners out there. I strongly suggest to start out using a ‘Blue safety gun’ because they’re extremely close to weight, balance and detail with the model of the gun you already own. We’re all students – so keep thinking and keep learning! In addition, a handgun carried on the front side of our body is less likely to "print" on our covering garment as we bend, stoop or otherwise move around. In addition, they should train and practice enough so that they can be certain that they will keep the trigger finger straight at all times. Yes – just what the world needs – a gun owner counting on an invisible helper to make sure they don’t mess up. . I’ll repeat that for those who speed-read past it the first time: if you mess up while holstering with appendix carry, you will be in serious trouble. I don’t know how I feel about this, … Because of its more central positioning, there is less travel time for both hands. It takes a lot of attention and technique to avoid that. However, some newbie shooters are determined to make the decision to use an AIWB (Appendix inside the waistband) holster and gamble on their fate. Call us at (586) 333-4240, and we’ll guide you through the process of choosing a holster to suit your needs. Today, appendix carry is done with a holster instead of merely inserting a pistol into the waistband. So far I haven’t had a student not take my advice in their first class with us. Do this no less than a dozen times or more each day. As with all things concerning personal defense with firearms, the best recipe for safe appendix carry is to get professional training. Is appendix carry (AIWB) dangerous for concealed carry (CCW)? I never said he shouldn’t do it (although I don’t). I don’t want to shoot myself at all, and I especially don’t want to clip an artery, so, I chose a holster that can only go on my body when it has been pre-installed on my pistol. Holsterless carry is dangerous, and should not be done unless it's due to a temporary emergency. A person considering appendix carry should be extra certain that they use a quality holster and one that is made specifically for the gun they are carrying. A professional trainer can help you learn to protect yourself in a safe and efficient manner, and help you decide which defensive handgun and method of carry is best for you. A large percentage of unintentional self-inflicted gunshot wounds seem to happen when someone is inserting a gun into the holster. 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